{"id":20700,"date":"2023-12-20T15:55:44","date_gmt":"2023-12-20T20:55:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/umaine.edu\/hudsonmuseum\/?page_id=20700"},"modified":"2025-05-19T09:57:36","modified_gmt":"2025-05-19T13:57:36","slug":"joe-hugga-dana-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/umaine.edu\/hudsonmuseum\/joe-hugga-dana-transcript\/","title":{"rendered":"Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana Video Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Visual: Title card featuring an image of a carved wooden walking stick on the left.&nbsp; It has a man\u2019s face, Native American features, and wearing a feather headdress.&nbsp; On the right is an image of a young man in a black t-shirt sitting at a table.&nbsp; Text reads: Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana, Penobscot Woodcarver.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe sits at a kitchen table on which are pieces of wood and various knives.&nbsp; He is holding a carved walking stick and speaking to someone off-camera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: My name is Joe Hugga Dana.&nbsp; My dad is Stan Neptune and he taught me to carve when I was about 13 or so years old. Yeah, he ended up teaching me and at a young age\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: A brief closeup of Joe\u2019s hands as he carves a face into a walking stick, removing small chips with a small utility knife.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: and I think I carved my first walking stick then with him &#8211; sat down with him, went through the steps of carving out a face in the walking sticks, which are made of poplar or &#8220;popple&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe sharpens his utility knife at the table. You can hear the hissing sound of the knife being sharpened behind his words as he speaks.&nbsp; The video cuts briefly back to the closeup of Joe carving the face, then back to Joe sharpening his knife.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: When I first started to carve, of course, you have to learn how to sharpen your knife and and I didn&#8217;t really grow as a carver until I was able to sharpen my own knives because I&#8217;d have to have my dad do it all the time. It&#8217;s a big part of carving, you know, you can&#8217;t carve unless you have a sharp knife. And you have to learn those techniques, once you do have a sharp knife, to use it in a manner where you&#8217;re not going to be cutting yourself all the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe sitting at the kitchen table.&nbsp; On the table are unfinished walking sticks and finished, dark-colored root club.&nbsp; Video briefly cuts to a pan over a cluster of shiny wooden snakes \u2013 very straight and well-decorated \u2013 nestled artistically in a bed of curly wood shavings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: So I thought it would be neat just to try it myself as a carver. Just like the snow snakes; it&#8217;s been so long since somebody tried carving one of those. My&nbsp;dad was like &#8220;Yeah we should just try to do it.&#8221; You know, &#8220;We can do it.&#8221; So we did it. It was pretty neat to see that, to see it work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: A group of people outside on a bright day with snow on the ground.&nbsp; The snow is crisscrossed with long narrow tracks and the people are taking turns throwing snowsnakes across the surface or down prepared tracks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: At one time it was a favorite pastime for the kids of the community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe at the table holding a large wooden snake.&nbsp; Others sit on the table in front of him and he picks them up. They are different lengths and widths. All have intricate designs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: This one I put the word in our Penobscot language [word in Penobscot] which means &#8220;snowsnake&#8221; in the Penobscot language.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Video Joe at the table with the various snowsnakes is interspersed with a brief closeup of the face of the snake being carved into the end of a piece of wood and with shots of people playing with snowsnakes on a sunny day in the snow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: Most of the ones are carved out to look like a snake &#8211; they get the eyes and the mouth. On an icy track, this one&#8217;s heavier and it&#8217;ll probably go faster &#8211; the ash. This one&#8217;s better because it&#8217;s&nbsp;wider and it&#8217;s got more of a curve to it &#8211; better for like a soft snow. It&#8217;s kind of neat because they all have their different&#8230; they all function differently because of the design. This one is, uh, maple. This one&#8217;s maple. These two are maple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We actually had some kids carving the snakes but they were made out of poplar, which, poplar&#8217;s a real light wood. I did mine out of maple and towards the end of the day we&#8217;re all throwing this one because it was going the furthest because it&#8217;s more denser wood. It also helps to get them real straight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Brief shots of Joe using a drawknife to shape a long block of wood into a crude snake shape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These actually take a lot of work. Especially if using hand tools. I&#8217;m sure if somebody who had all the fancy woodworking, uh, a workshop type &#8211; they could probably do one fairly quick, probably, with sanders and stuff. When I selected the wood, the head part, you&#8217;re cutting a tree that&#8217;s, you know, that large,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe uses is hands to show a circle approximately the size of a large grapefruit in diameter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: starting up here making the head and then tapering it right down,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe has finished with the drawknife and now uses a small plane to further shape the wood into a more recognizable snake-head shape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: so you&#8217;re actually taking away a lot of the wood. They don&#8217;t have to dry that much&nbsp;longer but they have to be smooth, you know, sanded- well sanded,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: Joe uses sandpaper to smooth the length of the snowsnake.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: like, really polished up, with starting with heavy grit sandpaper down to fine, fine, fine sandpaper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Gretchen Faulkner: And this was&nbsp;the style you and your father came up with?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: Yeah, from what we found in our history books. Just an upturned ski shape, a heavier front and a tapered end.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: A man uses a strap to pull a small log through the snow, forming a track. A younger man straddles the track and throws a snowsnake down it \u2013 the snake appears to slither as it bounces along the edges of the track.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: When you make a track and you throw a snake down it they they go pretty far, but it appears that it&#8217;s alive and wiggling back and forth. Most of the ones that we&#8217;re making I wanted to keep just to introduce them to the kids and schools, possibly, and even maybe winter carnivals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Jennifer Neptune: So you&#8217;re really reintroducing the tradition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: Yeah that&#8217;s what it is, it&#8217;s reintroduced. You get older and you sort of come back to your roots and want to learn want to learn more about traditional ways and stuff like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visual: A dark, very shiny snowsnake is thrown along the surface of the snow, gliding lightly toward the camera with a hissing sound.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voice of Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana: I think it was great to teach the kids&nbsp;at the young age just so they have that, and that they experience that. That way they know&nbsp;they can come back to something.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\">Credits<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Featuring: Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A Collaboration of: The Hudson Museum and the Maine Indian Basketmakers Alliance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Maine Indian Basketmakers Alliance is supported in part by: Artography, a grant program of Leveraging Investments in Creativity (LINC), funded by the Ford Foundation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Video Documentation Provided By: ASAP Media Service (Mike Scott, Alexander Gross, Yeshe Parks, Will Seyffer, Justin Taylor).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Millie Rahn, Folklorist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hudson Museum: Gretchen Faulkner, Director; Stephen Bicknell, Still Photographer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also made possible by The University of Maine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Visual: Title card featuring an image of a carved wooden walking stick on the left.&nbsp; It has a man\u2019s face, Native American features, and wearing a feather headdress.&nbsp; On the right is an image of a young man in a black t-shirt sitting at a table.&nbsp; Text reads: Joe \u201cHugga\u201d Dana, Penobscot Woodcarver. 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